========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Wed, 9 May 90 Volume 90 : Issue 528 Today's Topics: C++ for the ST? poolfix3, poolfix4; naming conventions. Professional GEM Re-using a Megafile Signum, gemini and AMCGDOS ST World (UK) Test ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 May 90 08:19:18 GMT From: usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!mcshh!schiers@ucsd.edu (Carsten Schiers) Subject: C++ for the ST? Message-ID: <7457@mcshh.hanse.de> R.A.W.McGuigan@newcastle.ac.uk (R.A.W. McGuigan) writes: >Very simply, is there a C++ compiler available for the ST? Simple answer: Yes. You'll need at least 2.5 MB and g++ from FSF. Price is nice: nothing. I own V1.35.1, which is slightly unstable, but V1.35.1 should be available anywhere. If you have FTP access, you'll have no problem to fetch it. If so, I'll try to find an address for you. CU Carsten. unido!imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de!schiers unido!netmbx!mcshh!schiers ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 90 15:09:09 GMT From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan!jfbruno@ucsd.edu (John F. Bruno) Subject: poolfix3, poolfix4; naming conventions. Message-ID: <3236@rodan.acs.syr.edu> In article <1990May9.042912.22032@wam.umd.edu> dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett) writes: >grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas) writes: >>Claus Brod has made some good points in a very reasonable way. If his >>pool fixing program does what he says it does, and doesn't hurt anything >>else, then I can see no reason why it should not be distributed. [stuff deleted] >The problem was not with the program itself, but with the author's >attitude. [ stuff deleted] >The original poolfix4 posting was one of the most pompous and obnoxious >messages I've ever seen in this newsgroup. There was more of an >"I'm a better hacker, Nyyaah!" feeling there than an "I'm trying to help >out" attitude. If I'd been Allan I would have been annoyed too. > >My AUTO folder has poolfix3.prg in it. > >Dave Baggett >dmb@wam.umd.edu I think everyone is missing the major problem with the poolfix4. The choice of "poolfix4" implies that it is the next version of "poolfix3" and since poolfix3 came from Atari, people will assume poolfix4 also came from Atari. I'm sure that some people would be confused by this and go to Alan Pratt for support/questions/whatever... I don't think it matters how pompous and obnoxious the original post was. If the original name was "POOLPTCH" or something like that, I bet nobody would have complained at all (unless of course it didn't work). ---jb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 90 16:49 BST From: Vision Newspapers Subject: Professional GEM If you can't access Terminator, Tim Oren's GEM articles are available from the Lancaster PD server. This is a UNIX machine at Lancaster University, UK and its JANET numerical address is 000010403000 (UK.AC.LANCS.PD, I think). Although it's a UNIX machine, it runs a hybrid shell that will accept most popular commands. The ST stuff is kept in micros/atari, with a full index in micros/atari/index You can pull stuff across to your own site via FTP. Hope this helps, Regards, Mathew (Mathew Lodge; JANET: SOCS18@uk.ac.york.vaxa) ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 90 20:22:14 GMT From: usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!salyko!freak@ucsd.edu (Alexander Reinelt) Subject: Re-using a Megafile Message-ID: <1312@salyko.cube.sub.org> MALCOLM@tower-vax.city-poly.ac.UK writes: >3. 30MB isn't much, and the ST238R isn't fast, so at some point in the > future I'll probably want to swap it for a bigger/faster unit (or add > a second drive). What will I need to know when choosing which drive > to buy? Well, I don't know much about hardware, but I can tell you about this point. It is possible, and not a bad idea, to put a second drive into the megafile 30 and on the hostadaptor of it. (Hope you get my english...) Well, there are lots of people in the atari.ger.fido (Fido Nets Atari Board in germany) who discussed this problem some time ago. I myself want to put a new, second drive in my megafile, as soon as i got the money. I think about 60 MB, 3,5" and RLL. Well, the hardware in the megafile is in some way ready to accept a second unit ! I can't tell you exactly, but there shurley many people out who know... The software is the other prob - AHDI is, as far s I know, not prepared for a second unit. And it has some bugs besides that point ... I use CBHD SYS. This is a very nice hard disk driver. It is based on the AHDI and rerwritten and very improved by a german called CLAUS BROD. He wrote aa nice and good book about floppies, harddisks etc on the st and inculded a disk within the book. This driver allows you without any problems to access a second unit in the megafile 30 or to boot from the partition you want (up to 12 are possible i think)... Well, overall its a great thing. Claus Brod is unfortunately no more contactable via usenet, but maybe I could help you a bit... c u, Freak ..................................................................... : Freak happens to be Alex Reinelt from Munich/West-Germany : # contact: freak@salyko.cube.sub.org ((Fido-adress is altering)) # : ! Life is a full time occupation - why let it be a situation vacant ? :...........................................(Rupert Hine/Thinkman)..: ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 90 20:23:33 GMT From: usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!altger!doitcr!salyko!freak@ucsd.edu (Alexander Reinelt) Subject: Signum, gemini and AMCGDOS Message-ID: <1313@salyko.cube.sub.org> As far as I know, you need Signum Version 2.01 to run it with Gemini and activated AMCGDOS. But I haven't checked it out myself yet... Otherwise you only can press "shift" while loading amc... c u Freak ..................................................................... : Freak happens to be Alex Reinelt from Munich/West-Germany : # contact: freak@salyko.cube.sub.org ((Fido-adress is altering)) # : ! Life is a full time occupation - why let it be a situation vacant ? :...........................................(Rupert Hine/Thinkman)..: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 90 16:54 BST From: Vision Newspapers Subject: ST World (UK) If you're not interested in UK computer magazines, and ST World in particular, then press n now. Regular readers of comp.sys.atari.st may recall that ST World (UK) and Europress (ST User) recently merged to form Interactive Publishing, and I suggested that it wouldn't be long before things changed... Today I received a letter from Interactive publishing, together with the Programmer's Clinic that I submitted at the end of last month. The letter says that: "Both ST World and Atari ST User are now produced by the same editorial team.. ..the magazines are to be relaunched with a brand new look. "One of the changes being made... ...is the transfer of your Programmer's Clinic feature from the pages of ST World onto the Cover Disk of Atari ST User. The Cover Disk will contain its own magazine..." I'm not very happy with the way they've cut and changed the last clinic to fit on the cover disk. I can understand the desire for a smaller clinic, but it's just the way they've changed the article, and the fact that they didn't consult me. ST World will now be quarterly, and "more of a buyers guide". I don't know what will happen to subscribers to ST World, given that they've now got a subscription to a totally different magazine. Regards, Mathew Lodge *********************************************************************** * c/o Dept. Computer Science * "Baldrick, fetch me a turkey _so * * University of York * big_, you'd have thought its mother * * Heslington * had been rodgered by an Omnibus" * * York, UK * * * YO1 5DD * JANET : SOCS18@uk.ac.york.vaxa * *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 90 19:22:04 GMT From: usc!snorkelwacker!ira.uka.de!smurf!gopnbg!tmpmbx!einoed!utopia!neon!woju@ucsd.e du (Wolfgang Jung) Subject: Test Message-ID: <1069@neon.UUCP> maranion@motcid.UUCP (Apolonio Maranion) writes: >Test... YOUR test was received at NEON...... -- =================================================================== # Wolfgang Jung Email:woju@neon.UUCP # # Germany Phone:0304112949 # =================================================================== End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 Issue #528 *****************************************